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Old 03-24-2024, 12:09 PM   #19289
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Yes, they both have been set apart in a way that both highlights their accomplishments, since nobody doubts that they are hall of famers (if not for the ban), but at the same time, because they are no doubters, it lends credibility and gravitas to the "no bet on baseball" mantra which is why I agree with keeping both of them out.


I don't need to rehash the whole thing, Lord know the White Sox scandal is one of the most analyzed incidents in the history of American sports, but Shoeless did know about the plot (even if he didn't participated and allegedly maybe tried to warn the WSox owner).

Rose case is more clear shut for me. He knew about the no betting history, he had the plaque on every clubhouse about no betting. The last hope of his defenders, that he might have bet as manager but not as a player was proven false so that ended all of that for me.
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Old 03-24-2024, 12:29 PM   #19290
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I think it might happen, but only after he dies, which is morbid. They don't want to give him any satisfaction while he is still alive, specially after Manfred made his comments about Rose having to "make changes in his life" or something to that effect, which everyone took it as meaning Rose is still betting on stuff, presumably baseball too, to this day.

Which to any civilian it shouldn't matter, betting is now legal, but when you have been crying about this for 30 plus years and how you are a changed man and whatnot, I would think refraining from betting, would be a show of good will. But addiction is a disease, so is MLB punishing him for his addiction? Maybe, but is he seeking any help? Does he wants any? Do I think this way too much? Why do you ask? :P

So tired of the Pete Rose stuff, worst thing about this Ohtani thing is all of his defenders coming out of the woodwork.
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Old 03-24-2024, 03:58 PM   #19291
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Not sure what Vegas has to do with this. The onslaught of gambling ads and the ease of betting on your phone 24/7 are much bigger problems. (And none of this is a problem in MLB's eyes, so long as the money keeps rolling in.)
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Not sure what Vegas has to do with this. The onslaught of gambling ads and the ease of betting on your phone 24/7 are much bigger problems. (And none of this is a problem in MLB's eyes, so long as the money keeps rolling in.)
I think MLB should avoid anything related to Vegas (or Atlantic City for that matter) just to stay away from slippery slopes. I hate that even MLB Network has started the path down gambling road. I actually dont have a problem with gambling, phone or otherwise. Its just a bad look for MLB to decide on Vegas when there are 20 better choices to move the A's. I know its not a popular opinion about MLB staying away from Vegas, but it is still mine.
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I think MLB should avoid anything related to Vegas (or Atlantic City for that matter) just to stay away from slippery slopes. I hate that even MLB Network has started the path down gambling road. I actually dont have a problem with gambling, phone or otherwise. Its just a bad look for MLB to decide on Vegas when there are 20 better choices to move the A's. I know its not a popular opinion about MLB staying away from Vegas, but it is still mine.
They should, sure, but MLB really, really don't care about anything but chasing profits. As in any behemoth corporation, there are individuals who care about the product, about ethics, etc. but everything ultimately flows in one direction, and that's $$$. Occasionally, that's good for the fan/consumer/employee, but usually not.

I'm speaking here as someone who has worked for EA and 2K, on both console and "free-to-play" (ugh) mobile titles, and who has had dealings with MLB/MLBPA, the NHL/NHLPA, and FIFA. They won't stop until it becomes unprofitable (or illegal) to continue on the current path.
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Dodgers announced he is speaking tomorrow at a press conference. Sounds like the stupidest thing he could do, but he apparently requested it. He'll probably read a statement and say he didn't know he was being stolen from. Then answer no questions.

This whole thing screams cover-up. Once the lawyers got involved, the whole story changed. Hopefully the FBI has some proof on who made the transfers.

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I think MLB should avoid anything related to Vegas (or Atlantic City for that matter) just to stay away from slippery slopes. I hate that even MLB Network has started the path down gambling road. I actually dont have a problem with gambling, phone or otherwise. Its just a bad look for MLB to decide on Vegas when there are 20 better choices to move the A's. I know its not a popular opinion about MLB staying away from Vegas, but it is still mine.
They already have sportsbooks at the stadiums. Bit too late for that.
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Maybe MLB encourage him behind the scenes to do this? This situation came out of nowhere and has been a cloud over Opening Week.

"I did nothing wrong. I was taken advantage by someone I trusted and thought of as a friend. I will fully cooperate with any investigation, be that MLB, local, state or federal. Thank you".

Then reporters shouting questions as he stands and leave


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