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Old 09-08-2023, 02:50 PM   #41
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Here, I tested with Buffalo and Miami. Here'a quarter. 90 fatigue, sim game style, 89/92 RB autosub. Didn't see one sub.
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I watched the video. what I saw is that for the purpose of this video and your point you only changed the RB settings. But then most of the plays were passing plays. However during the FG drive on 3rd down after your ran the ball, I think 3 consecutive plays, RB #22 was subbed out for #4 I though I saw. I wonder if the WRs would have subbed out if you had changed the WR settings. My experience is that Im getting players subbed in and out at different positions especially if they are involved in the plays. I havent edited any players. I leave progressive fatigue on, I practice with half pads - i dont see excessive exhaustion or any players disappearing. We will have to agree to disagree but I know what my playing experience has been and the auto subs are working for me.
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Old 09-08-2023, 03:01 PM   #42
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I watched the video. what I saw is that for the purpose of this video and your point you only changed the RB settings. But then most of the plays were passing plays. However during the FG drive on 3rd down after your ran the ball, I think 3 consecutive plays, RB #22 was subbed out for #4 I though I saw. I wonder if the WRs would have subbed out if you had changed the WR settings. My experience is that Im getting players subbed in and out at different positions especially if they are involved in the plays. I havent edited any players. I leave progressive fatigue on, I practice with half pads - i dont see excessive exhaustion or any players disappearing. We will have to agree to disagree but I know what my playing experience has been and the auto subs are working for me.
I can finish the game if you're curious

I don't have progressive fatigue on because of the issues it presented in the past.
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Old 09-08-2023, 03:10 PM   #43
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I don't have progressive fatigue on because of the issues it presented in the past.
Sure, why not. I can watch on another monitor while I work.

I do keep PF on but only practice in half pads to avoid potential injuries.

Are you actually playing or is that cpu vs cpu?
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Sure, why not. I can watch on another monitor while I work.

I do keep PF on but only practice in half pads to avoid potential injuries.

Are you actually playing or is that cpu vs cpu?
It's CPUvCPU
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Old 09-08-2023, 03:21 PM   #45
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It's CPUvCPU
with all due respect you cant 100% say that auto subs dont work based on cpu vs cpu. Its not the same environment as my human vs cpu games. I will agree to disagree with you here - they are working for me consistently.
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Old 09-08-2023, 03:24 PM   #46
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with all due respect you cant 100% say that auto subs dont work based on cpu vs cpu. Its not the same environment as my human vs cpu games. I will agree to disagree with you here - they are working for me consistently.
Why would that matter? And if the CPU doesn't sub, to me, that's just as immersion breaking.

As far as them working for you, you explained that you use tweaks to the depth chart too, not just auto subs.
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Why would that matter? And if the CPU doesn't sub, to me, that's just as immersion breaking.



As far as them working for you, you explained that you use tweaks to the depth chart too, not just auto subs.
I dont play cpu vs cpu so that's not my concern. They work for me in human vs cpu. My depth charts settings are not tweaks. Tony Pollard is not a power back, why would I have him there. If I have him in Singleback Ace Slot and run three of the run plays in that set and use max effort in running and trying to get extra yards that will bring his fatigue down to 89 and he is subbed out in that particular set as he should be.

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I dont play cpu vs cpu so that's not my concern. They work for me in human vs cpu. My depth charts settings are not tweaks. Tony Pollard is not a power back, why would I have him there. If I have him in Singleback Ace Slot and run three of the run plays in that set and use max effort in running and trying to get extra yards that will bring his fatigue down to 89 and he is subbed out in that particular set as he should be.

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Pollard isn't a "Power Back" but the Cowboys don't really have a "Power Back" right now so Pollard is their all-purpose RB; you could use Dowdle I guess but certainly not Deuce.

My point being that your depth chart setup sounds like it's doing the heavy lifting, which is fine - I feel like formation subs and depth charts are more effective and consistent than autosubs, and if you're worried about fatigue, you can lower it to a more reasonable number.

There will be teams you play that don't have a backup who's good enough to be the 3DRB or Power RB. Do they rotate? Cincinatti may be a good example.
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