Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by ACMilan99

I think Pettite's longevity gives him a case, but the roids and lack of anything resembling elite peripherals beats that case, so no for him, too.

I agree, was just throwing a rando name out there. With 250+ wins and basically a whole regular season worth of playoff stats, he'll get consideration. Though I certainly agree that his ERA, WHIP, and K-rate, among other things, are not up to the challenge--even before any PED talk.

[1stpitchhacker]

Quote: Originally Posted by DrJones

MVP and Cy Young voting is regionally biased? The list of award winners over the last 15-20 years doesn't support this at all. AL MVP since 1994 strike: TEX (5), SEA (2), OAK (2), BOS (2), NYY (2), MIN (2), DET (2), LAA (1) AL Cy Young since 1994 strike: TOR (4), MIN (2), SEA (2), CLE (2), BOS (2), NYY (1), OAK (1), LAA (1), KC (1), DET (1), TB (1)

Fair enough. Maybe it just seems like it living in Canada. However it is unbelievable how many times the wrong player gets the award. Pedro Martinez has been robbed of more than enough in his career. How he isn't considered one of the top five pitchers (if not the best) of all time in general MLB discussion (that I've heard) is so beyond me it's not funny.

[55]

Quote: Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear

250+ wins

Means nothing.

[1stpitchhacker]

How bout Jimmy Rollins?

[philliesfan136]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1stpitchhacker

How bout Jimmy Rollins?

I have a feeling, no.

[KMRblue1027]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1stpitchhacker

How bout Jimmy Rollins?

Counting stats are solid but probably not.

Discussed a ton here
http://www.thegoodphight.com/2013/2/...e-it-in-anyway

Of anyone the current Phillies era it's Utley that deserves the hall the most (Unless you count Halladay).

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by 55

Means nothing.

Apparently you aren't familiar with how the HoF works......

[1stpitchhacker]

Quote: Originally Posted by KMRblue1027

Counting stats are solid but probably not. Discussed a ton here http://www.thegoodphight.com/2013/2/...e-it-in-anyway Of anyone the current Phillies era it's Utley that deserves the hall the most (Unless you count Halladay).

With less than 1,400 hits Utley is nowhere near hall of fame consideration. Both players are roughly the same age.

WOULD Utley have gotten there? Probably. But he got to the Show too late. Putting him in HOF talks is like putting Ryan Howard in there. Great players during a relatively short stretch of time.