Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

[jetercanoturn2]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tomahawk

Butch Wynegar??? WTH??? Butch Wynegar over Thurman Munson and Elston Howard???

Lol good question. I've never even heard of Wynegar. However I do believe when it's said and done Posada earns his trip to the Hall. Good catcher all around, great hitting catcher, more rings then a jewelry store. Of course it will take a few more good years, But eventually he will get in. Make room for Hip Hip Jorge behind the other greats: Dickey, Berra, Munson, Howard, and now Posada. notice: no mention of Wynegar.

[55]

We went through this two years ago:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ada-hofer.html

[econoodle]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tomahawk

Butch Wynegar??? WTH??? Butch Wynegar over Thurman Munson and Elston Howard???

The Wynegar addition was a joke, obviously i thought lol.

Ok since Georgie was discussed a few years back, lets throw another name out there to discuss.

anyone?

[RandyMoss84]

Barry Bonds??

.298 AVG / 762 HRs / 1,996 RBIs/ 2,935 H / 514 SB

14× All-Star selection (1990, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2007)
8× Gold Glove Award winner (1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1998)
12× Silver Slugger Award winner (1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2004)
7× NL MVP (1990, 1992, 1993, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)
3x NL Hank Aaron Award winner (2001, 2002, 2004)

Holds the MLB record for
* 762 career home runs
* 73 home runs in a season
* 2,558 career walks
* 688 career intentional walks
* Home runs in a single season (73), 2001
* Home runs against different pitchers (449)
* Home runs since turning 40 years old (74)
* Home runs in the year he turned 43 years old (28)
* Consecutive seasons with 30 or more home runs (13), 1992-2004
* Slugging percentage in a single season (.863), 2001
* Slugging percentage in a World Series (1.294), 2002
* Consecutive seasons with .600 slugging percentage or higher (8), 1998-2005
* On-base percentage in a single season (.609), 2004
* Walks in a single season (232), 2004
* Intentional walks in a single season (120), 2004
* Consecutive games with a walk (18)
* MVP awards (7—closest competitors trail with 3), 1990, 1992-93, 2001-04
* Consecutive MVP awards (4), 2001-04
* National League Player of the Month selections (13—the next highest in either league is 8 by Frank Thomas, and the next highest in the N.L. is 6 by George Foster, Pete Rose and Dale Murphy)
* Oldest player (age 38) to win the National League batting title (.370) for the first time, 2002



My take: Yes, the numbers speak for themself and unless he somehow fails a drug test and has been proven on roids and that everyone else during that time was proved clean then he deserves a spot no doubt

[Tomahawk]

Quote: Originally Posted by econoodle

The Wynegar addition was a joke, obviously i thought lol. Ok since Georgie was discussed a few years back, lets throw another name out there to discuss. anyone?

I wouldn't worry about it if it was discussed. Two years of play can make a difference for many players.

I figured you were joking with Butch Wynegar ....I was just messing around, too.

[Ewing]

Ted Williams. Babe Ruth. Stan Musial. Rogers Hornsby. Lou Gehrig.

Arguably the five greatest baseball players of all-time. What is the one stat they all have in common?

.300/.400/.500, 2,000 hits, 300 home runs, 500 doubles, 1,000 walks.

You know who else holds those same numbers?



Nearly every retired player with a .300/.400/.500 line is in the Hall Of Fame. The only two not in are Shoeless Joe Jackson and Edgar Martinez. Joe is not in for obvious reasons and Edgar is just about to enter his first year of eligibility.

If Edgar doesn't make the Hall, it'll be the biggest screw-up in BBWAA history and that's saying something.

[econoodle]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ewing

Ted Williams. Babe Ruth. Stan Musial. Rogers Hornsby. Lou Gehrig. Arguably the five greatest baseball players of all-time. What is the one stat they all have in common? .300/.400/.500, 2,000 hits, 300 home runs, 500 doubles, 1,000 walks. You know who else holds those same numbers? Nearly every retired player with a .300/.400/.500 line is in the Hall Of Fame. The only two not in are Shoeless Joe Jackson and Edgar Martinez. Joe is not in for obvious reasons and Edgar is just about to enter his first year of eligibility. If Edgar doesn't make the Hall, it'll be the biggest screw-up in BBWAA history and that's saying something.

To the previous poster in regards to Barry Bonds.
No

As far as Edgar Martinez. He quietly marched through his career putting up non stop solid numbers.

Killed the Yanks.

He's in.

[Coug00]

Quote: Originally Posted by econoodle

As far as Edgar Martinez. He quietly marched through his career putting up non stop solid numbers. Killed the Yanks. He's in.

Being an M's fan there haven't been many glory years, but I will never forget Edgar in the 1995 ALDS against the Yanks. He absolutely killed them that series and specifically in game 4 when he knocked in 7 runs (including the Slam off Wetteland in the 8th to bust the game open).

I can't imagine what Edgar's numbers would have been if the M's wouldn't have let him rot in AAA for years while they kept strolling Jim Presley out to third.