UFC 237: Namajunas v Andrade

[GameTimeMMA]

Quote: Originally Posted by p_rushing

That was borderline illegal. Rose lost because she fought stupid. If she fought like that, JJ beats her both times. So JJ gets the belt back, then Rose gets it back .... although JJ may not be able to make 115 now with her enhancements. Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk

That's interesting, do you think it was illegal?

"Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his or her head or neck" is one the rules and Rose is clearly slammed on her head.

Do you think the rules are too loosely enforced in bouts?
Sometimes I think fighters are too comfortable breaking these rules because the worse they'll probably get is a warning.

I've seen guys do blatant fence grabs, eye pokes, holding the shorts, hands in the gloves, strikes to the back of the head and are rarely if ever penalized for it. IIRC Rampage did a piledriver on Ryan Bader at the end of their fight too and wasn't even warned for it.

[p_rushing]

Quote: Originally Posted by WarMMA

I think she fought damn near perfectly for the style matchup she was going against. On the feet, she stayed on the outside and picked at her with quick shots, countered her coming in, mixed it up with the grappling, ect. She fought a pretty much perfect fight on the feet against the type of fighter Andrade is. Literally the only thing she messed up on were those slams imo and it cost her. The first time she got slammed she didn't fall on her head, so she was able to hold onto and attempt a sub. But with the single leg position on the cage, going for the kimura works better if they do a td like where they just pull your legs out from under you. But if you get picked up, you should always let go to brace your fall or avoid being spiked on your head. She learned the hard way, but other than that, I thought she did well.

She allowed the clinch on her own when she could have just moved away.

Quote: Originally Posted by WarMMA

Yh Andrade is tough i'll give her that, but Rose showed the blueprint on how to beat her tonight, despite loosing. You have to stay long, pick at her from the outside and avoid the fence so she can't wrestle. Andrade is really just a wrestling version of Wanderlei Silva when you really look at it. I think JJ has the perfect style to beat her tbh. I'm sure if JJ gets another shot after this, she'll beat Andrade again.

JJ already put the blueprint out and Rose was following it until she allowed the clinch for no reason. She got full of herself saying she was going to sub her.

Quote: Originally Posted by GameTimeMMA

That's interesting, do you think it was illegal? "Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his or her head or neck" is one the rules and Rose is clearly slammed on her head. Do you think the rules are too loosely enforced in bouts? Sometimes I think fighters are too comfortable breaking these rules because the worse they'll probably get is a warning. I've seen guys do blatant fence grabs, eye pokes, holding the shorts, hands in the gloves, strikes to the back of the head and are rarely if ever penalized for it. IIRC Rampage did a piledriver on Ryan Bader at the end of their fight too and wasn't even warned for it.

Rules definitely aren't enforced. It should be immediate points taken for any foul, unless the fighter moves into the foul.

The slam I don't think has ever been called. It is borderline because Rose held on, but Andrade definitely tried to slam her on the neck/head. Even if you slam someone on their back, their head will hit, but that one is different.

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[Pappy Knuckles]

That was tough to watch, hated seeing Rose get taken out like that. She looked ****ing amazing up until that point, but these things happen. I feel like she takes the rematch no problem if things go the same outside of getting tossed on her head.

[WarMMA]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pappy Knuckles

That was tough to watch, hated seeing Rose get taken out like that. She looked ****ing amazing up until that point, but these things happen. I feel like she takes the rematch no problem if things go the same outside of getting tossed on her head.

Yh I feel she can beat Andrade too. She just messed up with not being aware of protecting herself on the slam and like p_rushing said, allowing unessesary clinch. She also needs to check leg kicks more. But yh I think she can beat her in a rematch and we already seen JJ beat her, so I wonder what happens next? Do they give Rose a rematch or does JJ get another shot?

[Pappy Knuckles]

I'd give her the immediate runback. She beat Joanna Champion twice and it's not like she got dominated in this fight. Looking at the top 10, there's not really anyone else that she's be robbing of an opportunity IMO. Ansaroff and Suarez fight soon, so I'm sure they'll be in the mix. It would be cool to see Waterson get a title shot at some point too. Her last 3 wins were solid.