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mustardman · 11-13-2003, 03:51 AM

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margan said:
They also rated Live higher than ESPN 2k4, so I think they just like the EA games better. None of the NCAA games have names in them initially so they really shouldn't fault them for that.

Please stop with the spinning, dude. I'm a fan of ANY game that is fun to play and has some realism, but I gotta say that Sega dropped the ball this year big time, on everyone of their games except the NFL one. I'm not even sure about THAT game. Let's hope Sega learns from this, because they will no doubt be hurting next year in sales for their neglience this year.

mustardman · 11-13-2003, 03:54 AM

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The long passes don't really concern me, cause something like that you can chose not to exploit. I'm not gonna be a bytch and just throw those passes all day anyway. And I'd rather have it that way then when you got 25-30 steals a game like in last year's version. Hopefully you'll be able to fix that issue with the sliders, adjust CPU defense or steals or whatever. Plus it doesn't sound like the reviewer spent a ton of time playing the game anyway, and was more concerned with the extras than the actual game. Absolutely no comments about dynasty mode or recruiting or anything. I'm going to pretty much ignore that review. All I'm hoping for is that the sliders will be good and that the game will actually be a challenge this year so you won't be able to be Duke on the hardest level with Southwest Nowhere State.

I totally respect your decision to play honestly, but I feel sorry for you. Your hiding a game's flaws won't make the game any better, and accepting those flaws only helps to allow the developers to gloss over such issues. I see no other surefire way to help the developer make a better game, other than being open about things that need to be worked on.

mustardman · 11-13-2003, 03:55 AM

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ehh said:
Didn't last year's game get a 8.2 or something like that from most sites? I highly doubt the game got WORSE. That review is ********.

Let's put it this way: NBA 2K4 IS worse than 2K3, though I wouldn't call the game all that bad.

Heelfan71 · 11-13-2003, 04:51 AM

All I can tell you guys (don't ask how I know, my lips are sealed) , is to ignore what that magazine says. The game is better than last years.

jmood88 · 11-13-2003, 05:44 AM

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mustardman said:

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ehh said:
Didn't last year's game get a 8.2 or something like that from most sites? I highly doubt the game got WORSE. That review is ********.

Let's put it this way: NBA 2K4 IS worse than 2K3, though I wouldn't call the game all that bad.

NBA 2k4 is way better than 2k3. It's no contest.

jmood88 · 11-13-2003, 05:44 AM

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mustardman said:

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margan said:
They also rated Live higher than ESPN 2k4, so I think they just like the EA games better. None of the NCAA games have names in them initially so they really shouldn't fault them for that.

Please stop with the spinning, dude. I'm a fan of ANY game that is fun to play and has some realism, but I gotta say that Sega dropped the ball this year big time, on everyone of their games except the NFL one. I'm not even sure about THAT game. Let's hope Sega learns from this, because they will no doubt be hurting next year in sales for their neglience this year.

What are you talking about?

Skyboxer · 11-13-2003, 06:49 AM

Why don't you all just wait until the game comes out and then make your own decisions. I can't stand the "review Lemmings" people. Just because a review says something, doesn't mean it's gospel.
If I didn't play certain games because of reading bad reviews of them , I would have missed some pretty good gaming. There are some good reviews, bad reviews and plain outright biased (lying) reviews due to agendas. Play the game and go by what YOU think.

fossen · 11-13-2003, 07:03 AM

A review is just a review. Nothing to get so excited about. XBN's sports game reviews are universally strange (remember the baseball review that focused on ballparks and birds ... exclusively?).

Basically, the headline here is that someone likes MM better than ESPN. Whoopie.

11-13-2003, 03:51 AM	#25
mustardman Banned OVR: 4 Join Date: Feb 2003	Re: [b]XBN Magazine Rates MM2004 8 of 10 and ESPN NCAA 04 6 of 10 [/b Quote: *margan said:* They also rated Live higher than ESPN 2k4, so I think they just like the EA games better. None of the NCAA games have names in them initially so they really shouldn't fault them for that. Please stop with the spinning, dude. I'm a fan of ANY game that is fun to play and has some realism, but I gotta say that Sega dropped the ball this year big time, on everyone of their games except the NFL one. I'm not even sure about THAT game. Let's hope Sega learns from this, because they will no doubt be hurting next year in sales for their neglience this year.

11-13-2003, 03:54 AM	#26
mustardman Banned OVR: 4 Join Date: Feb 2003	Re: [b]XBN Magazine Rates MM2004 8 of 10 and ESPN NCAA 04 6 of 10 [/b Quote: *ehh said:* The long passes don't really concern me, cause something like that you can chose not to exploit. I'm not gonna be a bytch and just throw those passes all day anyway. And I'd rather have it that way then when you got 25-30 steals a game like in last year's version. Hopefully you'll be able to fix that issue with the sliders, adjust CPU defense or steals or whatever. Plus it doesn't sound like the reviewer spent a ton of time playing the game anyway, and was more concerned with the extras than the actual game. Absolutely no comments about dynasty mode or recruiting or anything. I'm going to pretty much ignore that review. All I'm hoping for is that the sliders will be good and that the game will actually be a challenge this year so you won't be able to be Duke on the hardest level with Southwest Nowhere State. I totally respect your decision to play honestly, but I feel sorry for you. Your hiding a game's flaws won't make the game any better, and accepting those flaws only helps to allow the developers to gloss over such issues. I see no other surefire way to help the developer make a better game, other than being open about things that need to be worked on.

11-13-2003, 03:55 AM	#27
mustardman Banned OVR: 4 Join Date: Feb 2003	Re: [b]XBN Magazine Rates MM2004 8 of 10 and ESPN NCAA 04 6 of 10 [/b Quote: *ehh said:* Didn't last year's game get a 8.2 or something like that from most sites? I highly doubt the game got WORSE. That review is ********. Let's put it this way: NBA 2K4 IS worse than 2K3, though I wouldn't call the game all that bad.

11-13-2003, 04:51 AM	#28
Heelfan71 Hall Of Fame OVR: 44 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 19,942 Blog Entries: 4	Re: [b]XBN Magazine Rates MM2004 8 of 10 and ESPN NCAA 04 6 of 10 [/b] All I can tell you guys (don't ask how I know, my lips are sealed) , is to ignore what that magazine says. The game is better than last years.

11-13-2003, 05:44 AM	#29
jmood88 Sean Payton: Retribution OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 34,640 Blog Entries: 1	Re: [b]XBN Magazine Rates MM2004 8 of 10 and ESPN NCAA 04 6 of 10 [/b Quote: *mustardman said:* Quote: *ehh said:* Didn't last year's game get a 8.2 or something like that from most sites? I highly doubt the game got WORSE. That review is ********. Let's put it this way: NBA 2K4 IS worse than 2K3, though I wouldn't call the game all that bad. NBA 2k4 is way better than 2k3. It's no contest.

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11-13-2003, 06:49 AM	#31
Skyboxer Donny Baseball! OVR: 55 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: West Virginia Posts: 20,277	Re: [b]XBN Magazine Rates MM2004 8 of 10 and ESPN NCAA 04 6 of 10 [/b Why don't you all just wait until the game comes out and then make your own decisions. I can't stand the "review Lemmings" people. Just because a review says something, doesn't mean it's gospel. If I didn't play certain games because of reading bad reviews of them , I would have missed some pretty good gaming. There are some good reviews, bad reviews and plain outright biased (lying) reviews due to agendas. Play the game and go by what YOU think.

11-13-2003, 07:03 AM	#32
fossen Blbflth zp! OVR: 28* Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 7,098	Re: [b]XBN Magazine Rates MM2004 8 of 10 and ESPN NCAA 04 6 of 10 [/b A review is just a review. Nothing to get so excited about. XBN's sports game reviews are universally strange (remember the baseball review that focused on ballparks and birds ... exclusively?). Basically, the headline here is that someone likes MM better than ESPN. Whoopie.

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