But you're also telling us Giannis should win because of record and telling people that record doesn't matter for ROY. Which I get, I don't think it's on a rookie to transform a bad team into a good one, they can't really control that. But Joker can't control that he had to play without Murray and Porter all year either. But it's also not like Cade was so much better than Barnes that he was on some Duncan or Luka level as a rookie, and even though I don't really hold record against him I could see people at least expecting him to get them higher than 3rd worst in the league.