L.T-For the Rookie Cap. Reggie Bush Against the Rookie Cap

[p_rushing]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

There is over 400 mill in unspent salary cap dollars.

I don't know if that number is right or not, but it depends on when that number is calculated. If its at the beginning of the year, then a lot of that money is used by the end as people get bonuses and contracts are extended to use any left over money. Very few teams actually leave money under the cap by the time the year is done.

[grunt]

Goodell wants a do-over; fans want some answers

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...7&sportCat=nfl

Good article.

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by p_rushing

I don't know if that number is right or not, but it depends on when that number is calculated. If its at the beginning of the year, then a lot of that money is used by the end as people get bonuses and contracts are extended to use any left over money. Very few teams actually leave money under the cap by the time the year is done.

These numbers was as of March 15, 2008.

Projected 2008 NFL Salary Cap Space for Each Team

Rank Team $ Under the Cap
1 Kansas City Chiefs $27829000
2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $26049700
3 Buffalo Bills $21971300
4 New Orleans Saints $20402900
5 Tennessee Titans $17990400
6 Green Bay Packers $17920400
7 Jacksonville Jaguars $16783700
8 Minnesota Vikings $16604400
9 San Diego Chargers $16003100
10 Miami Dolphins $14865800
11 Philadelphia Eagles $14758000
12 San Francisco 49ers $12457200
13 Chicago Bears $11890400
14 St. Louis Rams $11537400
15 Houston Texans $10504400
16 New England Patriots $8270090
17 Atlanta Falcons $7928010
18 Cincinnati Bengals $7780020
19 NY Giants $6156960
20 Cleveland Browns $4791990
21 Oakland Raiders $3460620
22 Seattle Seahawks $3387030
23 Baltimore Ravens $3270950
24 Washington Redskins $3239580
25 Indianapolis Colts $2588520
26 Carolina Panthers $1977940
27 Denver Broncos $1860600
28 Arizona Cardinals $1160080
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[bgeno]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

Goodell wants a do-over; fans want some answers http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...7&sportCat=nfl Good article.

Quote:

• Goodell referred to Michigan tackle Jake Long's five-year, $57.75 million contract -- with $30 million guaranteed. Long was the first overall draft pick by the Miami Dolphins in April. "He doesn't have to play a down in the NFL and he already has his money," Goodell said. "Now, with the economics where they are, the consequences if you don't evaluate that player, you can lose a significant amount of money. ... And that money is not going to players that are performing. It's going to a player that never makes it in the NFL. And I think that's ridiculous." The commish was all smiles on draft day, but he now calls guaranteed money for rookies like Jake Long "ridiculous." So, Roger, you think Long is going to be a bust? The Dolphins don't, which is why they signed him before draft day. And during Long's introductory news conference, Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland actually praised and thanked Long's agent for his help during the negotiations. "This is about picking the best football player, in my opinion," Ireland said. "I think that's what we've done here. The economics do come into it, but that's not part of the discussion for today." Buyer remorse? Doesn't sound like it.

I'd rather not read the rest of the article after that. Wojciechowski clearly doesn't understand Goodell's point.

[mercalnd]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

These numbers was as of March 15, 2008. Projected 2008 NFL Salary Cap Space for Each Team Rank Team $ Under the Cap 1 Kansas City Chiefs $27829000 2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $26049700 3 Buffalo Bills $21971300 4 New Orleans Saints $20402900 5 Tennessee Titans $17990400 6 Green Bay Packers $17920400 7 Jacksonville Jaguars $16783700 8 Minnesota Vikings $16604400 9 San Diego Chargers $16003100 10 Miami Dolphins $14865800 11 Philadelphia Eagles $14758000 12 San Francisco 49ers $12457200 13 Chicago Bears $11890400 14 St. Louis Rams $11537400 15 Houston Texans $10504400 16 New England Patriots $8270090 17 Atlanta Falcons $7928010 18 Cincinnati Bengals $7780020 19 NY Giants $6156960 20 Cleveland Browns $4791990 21 Oakland Raiders $3460620 22 Seattle Seahawks $3387030 23 Baltimore Ravens $3270950 24 Washington Redskins $3239580 25 Indianapolis Colts $2588520 26 Carolina Panthers $1977940 27 Denver Broncos $1860600 28 Arizona Cardinals $1160080 B

So basically those numbers aren't representative. That's pretty much the very beginning of the year. Notice they are 2008 numbers not "end of 2007 season" numbers. It's the cap space teams have to work with for the next season. So p_rushing's point about performance bonuses applies to your number.

On top of that, in March, players whose contracts are up and have not yet resigned are not part of the cap numbers for the next year. Obvisouly, FAs that will be signed during the offseason are not on the cap number yet as they aren't signed yet and obviously no rookies are signed since the draft has yet to happen. When you said "unspent cap dollars" I thought your point was that there were 400 million in cap space that teams do not use at all. Maybe I misunderstood as I haven't followed the whole thread.

[Amy Bondy]

Yuh a rookie shouldnt come in making so much money because what if he doesnt live up to the hype. He has to be able to come in and prove himself.

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by mercalnd

So basically those numbers aren't representative. That's pretty much the very beginning of the year. Notice they are 2008 numbers not "end of 2007 season" numbers. It's the cap space teams have to work with for the next season. So p_rushing's point about performance bonuses applies to your number. On top of that, in March, players whose contracts are up and have not yet resigned are not part of the cap numbers for the next year. Obvisouly, FAs that will be signed during the offseason are not on the cap number yet as they aren't signed yet and obviously no rookies are signed since the draft has yet to happen. When you said "unspent cap dollars" I thought your point was that there were 400 million in cap space that teams do not use at all. Maybe I misunderstood as I haven't followed the whole thread.

This is what Robert Smith and Chris Mortensen said on Mike and Mike morning show. There are quite a few teams that don't come close to reaching their cap number. Smaller market teams struggle because of their tight budget.

[snepp]

Much of the free space is due to the gigantic increases in the cap the last couple of years (a little over 30 million in just three years).