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Old 09-28-2012, 04:23 PM   #41
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Chapman and Rodney both have a higher WAR than Kimbrel this year.
Depends on who you look at. Fangraphs shows Kimbrel higher than both while BBRef shows them all as pretty close.

Regardless, do you believe that Rodney has been as good/better than Kimbrel?
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:24 PM   #42
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There is rarely just one definitive "best" in sports.
Usually you can make the argument for a number of players...
There is no deviance from that in this situation.

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Old 09-28-2012, 04:29 PM   #43
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There is rarely just one definitive "best" in sports.
Usually you can make the argument for a number of players...
There is no deviance from that in this situation.

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Agreed. I should probably clarify what I mean. Has Rodney done a phenomenal job as a closer? Yes, he has. Great ERA, lots of saves, etc. When you look at his rate stats, however, he hasn't been as good as Kimbrel. He has had an incredibly low BABIP (.215), probably aided by the Ray's defense, that has helped him. Kimbrel has been flat out unhittable (3.9 H/9 and 16.5 K/9...insane!). When I say Kimbrel has been the best, I mean he's that as a pitcher he has done his job (not allow runners/strike people out) better than anyone measured quantitatively.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:37 PM   #44
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As someone with no dog in this fight, I'd choose Kimbrel as the best reliever in baseball this year. Near as I can figure, Chapman's and Rodney's edge in WAR is completely derived from 10 extra IP. For me, that's too little a difference to ignore Kimbrel's superior rate stats. I wouldn't say Kimbrel is an overwhelming choice, but he'd still be my pick.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:37 AM   #45
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I'll post my predictions.

AL MVP: Miguel Cabrera
NL MVP: Ryan Braun

AL Cy Young: David Price
NL Cy Young: R.A. Dickey

Al Rookie of the Year: Mike Trout
NL Rookie of the Year: Wade Miley

AL Manager of the Year: Buck Showalter
NL Manager of the Year: Davey Johnson

AL Comeback Player of the Year: Adam Dunn
NL Comeback Player of the Year: Adam Wainwright
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:08 PM   #46
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Posey is clearly the NL Comeback Player of the Year.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:01 PM   #47
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Posey is clearly the NL Comeback Player of the Year.
Why do I feel so stupid for not even recognizing him?
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:05 PM   #48
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Chase Headley = Breakout Player of the Year award

If we were in the Playoff hunt he'd have to get some MVP consideration...but we're not
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