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[l3ulvl]

in response to having a regular player on the 53 man roster who can kick if necessary, I can't help but think of the Lions when Suh was the emergency kicker and couldn't even make an extra point, and that was when it was still snapped from the 2. He legitimately won the emergency kicker job in practice, and he was a soccer guy, it's just not that simple

[bigbob]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

How dare you assume he read the details! Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

Don't treat me like I'm one of those people that get on here and troll or intentionally say stupid **** just to get a rise out of people. I have zero reputation around here for being that type of person. As a matter of fact, I don't have a reputation at all. If you have an issue with me, I'm just a PM away.

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[bigbob]

Quote: Originally Posted by IlluminatusUIUC

Some kickers, especially older ones, don't have the leg strength to get the ball into the endzone regularly. However, because they are so valuable as placekickers, they don't aggressively pursue the returner. They kick and then hang back as a desperation play in case he breaks through. If you have another guy kick, he can also aggressively play coverage and having 11 guys active is an edge. There are guys all over the league with this job description. Matthew Slater is a "wide receiver" with 8 targets in 200+ games. Special Teams is his job. It seems like there's an opportunity here for someone to stick on a roster in the same fashion.

You need someone to hang back in case something gets loose. You shouldn't have all 11 gunning for the returner. That will cause more kick returns for a touchdown.

And you don't need two Matthew Slaters on a team.

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[IlluminatusUIUC]

Quote: Originally Posted by l3ulvl

in response to having a regular player on the 53 man roster who can kick if necessary, I can't help but think of the Lions when Suh was the emergency kicker and couldn't even make an extra point, and that was when it was still snapped from the 2. He legitimately won the emergency kicker job in practice, and he was a soccer guy, it's just not that simple

I was specifically referring to kickoffs and not placekicking.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigbob

You need someone to hang back in case something gets loose. You shouldn't have all 11 gunning for the returner. That will cause more kick returns for a touchdown

With 11 actively covering, there aren't enough blockers to account for them. If the guy gets through, you're asking a kicker (specifically in my example, an older kicker) to open field tackle a returner with a full head of steam. That is, assuming that the kicker isn't getting blown up by a blocker himself.

Quote: Originally Posted by steelerfan

I said 75 yards. Because you said "blast a ball through the end zone". Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

I meant to write to and not through, but you are correct. My mistake.

[TheShizNo1]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigbob

Don't treat me like I'm one of those people that get on here and troll or intentionally say stupid **** just to get a rise out of people. I have zero reputation around here for being that type of person. As a matter of fact, I don't have a reputation at all. If you have an issue with me, I'm just a PM away. Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Tapatalk

I'm treating you like your take on this makes me infer that you didn't read the details and are just doing a generic "let's wait and see approach".

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[slickdtc]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

He admitted to it man.

The only defense against this is that his admission was only made public by the accuser’s/her lawyer’s statement/press release. There could be a chance they characterize it differently then what it was. I would imagine since she was assisted by law enforcement in getting that admission from Araiza that the recording will come out for all to judge as the case works through the court system, civil or criminal.

That admission is a major factor in why “rushing to judgement” doesn’t really feel like a rush for this case. So I hope that it’s as clear as it was presented. It certainly seemed quite damning to me.

I’m still of the mind that with what we know, the Bills cutting him was a no brainer. Even if he ends up being exonerated, for this moment in time, it was the right move.

[J_Posse]

Quote: Originally Posted by slickdtc

The only defense against this is that his admission was only made public by the accuser’s/her lawyer’s statement/press release. There could be a chance they characterize it differently then what it was. I would imagine since she was assisted by law enforcement in getting that admission from Araiza that the recording will come out for all to judge as the case works through the court system, civil or criminal. That admission is a major factor in why “rushing to judgement” doesn’t really feel like a rush for this case. So I hope that it’s as clear as it was presented. It certainly seemed quite damning to me. I’m still of the mind that with what we know, the Bills cutting him was a no brainer. Even if he ends up being exonerated, for this moment in time, it was the right move.

It would've been a PR nightmare & possibly fractured the fanbase. As well as tarnishing the culture and legacy of the McDermott/Beane regime.

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