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archanax 04-04-2024 03:35 AM

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: NHL 24 (Powered by NHL Edge)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cycloniac (Post 2050902143)
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2110071475

I made some tweaks, let me know what you think

Nice video, I saw some good things and bad things lol:

good things:
- I saw that players were able to make dampening pass not only in the air but also on the ice in this video but also dampening pass without any opponents in front of them.
- I saw during a run players taking shots immediatly after getting through the offensive line.

bad things:
- I noticed a small update of the speed maybe due to gamespeed at 1? or because agility was a little bit increased that we can see on some animations of the players
- the pace of the game is not calm enough, they always run in the net instead of building up an offensive to the net by passing a lot, especially to D-men.


maybe you also changed something about backskating or the minimum pass speed. I really don't know lol... So tell me please what tweaks you did :D

archanax 04-04-2024 07:38 AM

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: NHL 24 (Powered by NHL Edge)
 
oh crap, I forgot to write something about backskating. In fact, tripping fouls are more frequent with a backskating value of 0-50. If we go higher (e.g. 60 or 75), there are less tripping fouls.

It's like when backskating is at a low value, players get excited in order to catch the puck carrier (bause they are too slow) and commit more fouls.

Cycloniac 04-04-2024 09:47 AM

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: NHL 24 (Powered by NHL Edge)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by archanax (Post 2050902235)
Nice video, I saw some good things and bad things lol:

good things:
- I saw that players were able to make dampening pass not only in the air but also on the ice in this video but also dampening pass without any opponents in front of them.
- I saw during a run players taking shots immediatly after getting through the offensive line.

bad things:
- I noticed a small update of the speed maybe due to gamespeed at 1? or because agility was a little bit increased that we can see on some animations of the players
- the pace of the game is not calm enough, they always run in the net instead of building up an offensive to the net by passing a lot, especially to D-men.


maybe you also changed something about backskating or the minimum pass speed. I really don't know lol... So tell me please what tweaks you did :D

Thanks, this is helpful! Here is what I changed and my thoughts:

First, I plugged in your values exactly. I felt like the pace was too slow compared to the real NHL. I was going back and forth between some NHL games and the CPUvCPU game I had running.

Let's look at this game for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYWVEAHDNzM&t=1750s

So, I increased game speed to 6 and increased acceleration to 50. Everything else is the same as what you shared. At game speed 0 with accel and agility at 0, it looked like nobody could skate. Players could barely setup in the offensive zone.

If we still think the pace is too fast, we can lower game speed. I felt like the gameplay I shared showed a good mix of rush play and situations where the offense would setup and cycle, but I'm not quite finished tweaking

EDIT: the video I shared didn't show enough of the cycling and such I did see after watching it again. Maybe I'll record more, but let me know your thoughts

archanax 04-04-2024 04:18 PM

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: NHL 24 (Powered by NHL Edge)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cycloniac (Post 2050902290)
Thanks, this is helpful! Here is what I changed and my thoughts:

First, I plugged in your values exactly. I felt like the pace was too slow compared to the real NHL. I was going back and forth between some NHL games and the CPUvCPU game I had running.

Let's look at this game for reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYWVEAHDNzM&t=1750s

So, I increased game speed to 6 and increased acceleration to 50. Everything else is the same as what you shared. At game speed 0 with accel and agility at 0, it looked like nobody could skate. Players could barely setup in the offensive zone.

If we still think the pace is too fast, we can lower game speed. I felt like the gameplay I shared showed a good mix of rush play and situations where the offense would setup and cycle, but I'm not quite finished tweaking

EDIT: the video I shared didn't show enough of the cycling and such I did see after watching it again. Maybe I'll record more, but let me know your thoughts

I just thought about a thing with what you wrote. You talked about nhl games and cpu vs cpu. By nhl games, you mean a tv match like the youtube video you shared? In this case, the pace is really slow and it would be cool to see players passing the puck like this. About cpu vs cpu, in fact, all my tests are user (offline) vs cpu and never cpu vs cpu because I noticed that user sliders have a real influence on cpu sliders.

It's not the first time it happens, it was already present for last year edition, nhl 20 and even before.

Maybe this is the reason why we didn't see the same thing ingame

Cycloniac 04-04-2024 04:24 PM

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: NHL 24 (Powered by NHL Edge)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by archanax (Post 2050902408)
I just thought about a thing with what you wrote. You talked about nhl games and cpu vs cpu. By nhl games, you mean a tv match like the youtube video you shared? In this case, the pace is really slow and it would be cool to see players passing the puck like this. About cpu vs cpu, in fact, all my tests are user (offline) vs cpu and never cpu vs cpu because I noticed that user sliders have a real influence on cpu sliders.

It's not the first time it happens, it was already present for last year edition, nhl 20 and even before.

Maybe this is the reason why we didn't see the same thing ingame

Yes, I was comparing NHL games on TV to CPUvCPU play

That's why when I tried your settings, the pace seemed too slow

archanax 04-04-2024 05:21 PM

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: NHL 24 (Powered by NHL Edge)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cycloniac (Post 2050902410)
Yes, I was comparing NHL games on TV to CPUvCPU play

That's why when I tried your settings, the pace seemed too slow

ah ok

If you can try them then in play now once just for test please

Cycloniac 04-04-2024 06:08 PM

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: NHL 24 (Powered by NHL Edge)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by archanax (Post 2050902424)
ah ok

If you can try them then in play now once just for test please

I only play coach mode or cpu V cpu

archanax 04-05-2024 04:28 PM

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: NHL 24 (Powered by NHL Edge)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cycloniac (Post 2050902442)
I only play coach mode or cpu V cpu

good to know lol :D

well, in any case, thanks to you because with some tweaks on your set, I get now my best experience on nhl since years :)

If you're ok, I'll be glad (and also to keep in memory for the future) to share in another topic or even on your page at the buttom of your first post to get then a set that works very well for user vs cpu


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