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Old 11-08-2023, 10:30 PM   #229
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Specifically re: your tangent of travelling out of country. If Hamas was to live in peace with Israel and not stir up problems in Egypt (and Jordan), there would be no blockade, there would be no wall, there would not be this current war.

We aren't talking about Hamas, we are talking about Palestinian civilians. Israel can ban every member of Hamas and kill them for all I care. The people being killed and imprisoned have nothing to do with Hamas.

Asking Egypt to take millions of refugees who are mostly women and children (the most expensive to the economy) so Israel can have its ethnostate seems like an unfair ask.

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Unfortunately, neither Israel nor Egypt nor Jordan trust Hamas enough to believe they will keep their promises. Hence ... walls.

Again, what does Jordan have to do with this? Do you know where Gaza is on the map?

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So tell me again, why does Hamas have children & grandma's as hostages?

They take hostages so they can trade for Palestinian hostages. In the past, Israel has given very favorable terms for hostage trades.
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