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stevew 01-09-2007 01:15 PM

Breaking News!!! Apple iPhone
 
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Apple Computer Inc. Chief Executive Steve Jobs on Tuesday introduced an eagerly-anticipated Apple-branded mobile phone with a touch-screen that combines features from the company's popular iPod music player.

While Apple watchers were expecting details on an Apple smartphone able to play music, make calls and perform other functions, the announcement at the annual Macworld conference still helped push the company's shares up more than 5 percent.

Jobs did not give immediate details on the pricing of the phone or its availability, but his speech was expected to continue until 11:00 a.m. local time. The phone will use the network of AT&T's cellular unit, Cingular Wireless.

The move also could help Apple bolster its dominant position in the market for portable digital media devices. The iPod now commands more than a 70 percent share of the U.S. market for MP3 players, as the devices are also known.

The new 11.6 millimeter phone includes a 3.5-inch wide touchscreen display with multi-touch support, 2 megapixel camera and 8 gigabytes of storage. It runs Apple's OS X operating system.

Jobs also said another device that allows users to stream movies, music, photos, podcasts and TV shows to their home entertainment systems would ship in February. Dubbed "AppleTV," the 40 gigabyte machine will cost $299, the same price Jobs forecast back in September.

Jobs also said movies from Paramount films would be sold in on Apple's iTunes online music store in addition to titles from Disney.

Apple has sold more than 70 million iPods since they were introduced and consumers have bought more than 2 billion songs for about 99 cents each on iTunes. More than 220 television shows are also available on iTunes.

Apple shares rose $4.30 to $88.77 following the announcement.

stevew 01-09-2007 01:16 PM


rkmsuf 01-09-2007 01:17 PM

that's a farging colossal phone

Senator 01-09-2007 01:23 PM

This IS breaking news!!

cartman 01-09-2007 01:24 PM

Pricing is $499 for a 4GB iPhone, $599 for 8GB. And as the article states, only through Cingular. Well, at least until the first unlock code comes out, then any GSM service.

Logan 01-09-2007 01:29 PM

That screen looks like it would crack in about 3 seconds.

But I don't care if the thing had free NFL Sunday Ticket and played it flawlessly...I would never use a phone that only had Cingular service. Their service is pathetic around here.

wade moore 01-09-2007 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1353120)
That screen looks like it would crack in about 3 seconds.

But I don't care if the thing had free NFL Sunday Ticket and played it flawlessly...I would never use a phone that only had Cingular service. Their service is pathetic around here.


I'm completely tied to Verizon because it is the only one that gives good service in my house.

Passacaglia 01-09-2007 01:35 PM

500 for a phone? My LG cost $50, and for another $30, I was able to put a miniSD 1 GB card in it.

albionmoonlight 01-09-2007 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkmsuf (Post 1353104)
that's a farging colossal phone


For some reason, I have this image of snopes.com:

RUMOR: Steve Jobs and the Apple Corporation have discovered a race of Giants and are arming them with colossal technolgy so as to facilitate their takeover of the world.

STATUS: FALSE

This rumor appears to have started with a photograph taken in early 2007 in which . . . .

AgustusM 01-09-2007 01:45 PM

can anyone think of any worse kept "secret" then this???

Logan 01-09-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgustusM (Post 1353142)
can anyone think of any worse kept "secret" then this???


That Google is going to take over the world.

AgustusM 01-09-2007 01:49 PM

http://www.apple.com/iphone/phone/

official website. I normally hate all things apple, but damn that is an impressive phone.

Subby 01-09-2007 01:58 PM

Nice merging of iPod, phone, camera, organizer - with a bigger screen for movie/show/video viewing.

Looks pretty good to me.

I CAN NOW TALK *AND* WATCH MOVIES WHILE DRIVING!!!!

Neuqua 01-09-2007 02:07 PM

I want one.

cartman 01-09-2007 02:20 PM

My 2nd Gen 40GB iPod (which I only use 6GB of) and my RAZR are both getting a bit long in the tooth, and the idea of only carrying around one device instead of two is pretty appealing...

AgustusM 01-09-2007 02:26 PM

Built-in Advanced Sensors
iPhone’s accelerometer detects when you rotate the device from portrait to landscape, then automatically changes the contents of the display, so you immediately see the entire width of a web page or a photo in its proper landscape aspect ratio.


that is pretty damn cool.

Coffee Warlord 01-09-2007 02:26 PM

That. Will be broken in 30 seconds of carrying around in my pocket.

Sigh. Give me a PHONE. Not a freakin' fashion statement.

oliegirl 01-09-2007 02:28 PM

I'll consider getting one when the price comes down and they provide it to Verizon customers...

Deattribution 01-09-2007 02:29 PM

Whoever gets one first can let me know how your new giant sized phone is when they air deliver it via dual helicopers on your front lawn.

QuikSand 01-09-2007 02:34 PM



Well, sure, my phone looks impressive, don't touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, phones will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them.

DaddyTorgo 01-09-2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgustusM (Post 1353179)
Built-in Advanced Sensors
iPhone’s accelerometer detects when you rotate the device from portrait to landscape, then automatically changes the contents of the display, so you immediately see the entire width of a web page or a photo in its proper landscape aspect ratio.

that is pretty damn cool.



that's a lot ado about nothing. my phone does that already.

Flasch186 01-09-2007 02:39 PM

now if only Apple buys Sirius my Sirius stock should frickin' boom!!

dawgfan 01-09-2007 02:40 PM

I usually find Apple products over-rated/over-priced and am highly annoyed at the attitudes most Mac-users hold, but at first glance this smartphone is very, very impressive. The real test will be actually using it and seeing how well the touch-screen functionality works, and how durable it is.

Passacaglia 01-09-2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1353173)
My 2nd Gen 40GB iPod (which I only use 6GB of) and my RAZR are both getting a bit long in the tooth, and the idea of only carrying around one device instead of two is pretty appealing...


That was my thinking when I got my phone a few months back...you can have this stuff already, and cheaper.

TroyF 01-09-2007 03:28 PM

My concern is in airplanes. I do a ton of traveling and if there is no way to turn off the phone from and leave the MP3 player on, it's useless in a plane.

lordscarlet 01-09-2007 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 1353259)
My concern is in airplanes. I do a ton of traveling and if there is no way to turn off the phone from and leave the MP3 player on, it's useless in a plane.


My Smart Phone (Cingular 8125) has a mode for when you're on a plane.

cartman 01-09-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 1353204)
That was my thinking when I got my phone a few months back...you can have this stuff already, and cheaper.


True, but I'm beginning to think that having the device run on OSX will be worth the price of admission.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF (Post 1353259)
My concern is in airplanes. I do a ton of traveling and if there is no way to turn off the phone from and leave the MP3 player on, it's useless in a plane.


Since it does run on OSX, I'd be very surprised if you wouldn't be able to simply turn off the service that runs the phone portion of the hardware.

Cringer 01-09-2007 03:46 PM

yeah, it's a nice phone. Too bad it's Apple and Cingular. Oh well, just like everything else Apple makes, something else will come along that does the same or more, for less. And I won't have to be stuck buying on iTunes.

lordscarlet 01-09-2007 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1353278)
yeah, it's a nice phone. Too bad it's Apple and Cingular. Oh well, just like everything else Apple makes, something else will come along that does the same or more, for less. And I won't have to be stuck buying on iTunes.


1) They said they will be working on one that works on other services
2) Like the Zune?

Coder 01-09-2007 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1353278)
And I won't have to be stuck buying on iTunes.


Not sure about the other stuff, but you sure don't have to buy music on iTunes to listen to it in an iPod.. I haven't bought a song on iTunes and my 80 Gb iPod is at least half full by now.

cartman 01-09-2007 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer (Post 1353278)
yeah, it's a nice phone. Too bad it's Apple and Cingular. Oh well, just like everything else Apple makes, something else will come along that does the same or more, for less. And I won't have to be stuck buying on iTunes.


Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1353307)
1) They said they will be working on one that works on other services
2) Like the Zune?


There is nothing in the hardware of the phone that keeps it from working with any GSM provider. There is just some sort of software key on it that will only allow it to work with a Cingular branded SIM card. This is referred to as "locking" the phone to a particular provider. This is easily overridden, and I'm sure that the fix will be out the same day as the iPhone. You will also probably be able to buy an unlocked phone to use on any GSM service, but the price will probably be $200 to $300 higher.

cartman 01-09-2007 04:30 PM

Dola,

Lost in the shuffle of today's product announcements is that Apple is dropping 'Computer' from the official company name. It'll now just be Apple, Inc.

lordscarlet 01-09-2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1353312)
There is nothing in the hardware of the phone that keeps it from working with any GSM provider. There is just some sort of software key on it that will only allow it to work with a Cingular branded SIM card. This is referred to as "locking" the phone to a particular provider. This is easily overridden, and I'm sure that the fix will be out the same day as the iPhone. You will also probably be able to buy an unlocked phone to use on any GSM service, but the price will probably be $200 to $300 higher.


I know this. I'm referring to a non-GSM version.

lordscarlet 01-09-2007 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1353322)
Dola,

Lost in the shuffle of today's product announcements is that Apple is dropping 'Computer' from the official company name. It'll now just be Apple, Inc.


Hell, I think Apple TV was lost in the shuffle. :) (Not that I think it's very noteworthy, and only would be if it were a PVR)

cartman 01-09-2007 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1353328)
I know this. I'm referring to a non-GSM version.


Gotcha.

But with only Sprint and Verizon on CDMA in North America only, and the rest of the world on one of the 4 GSM frequencies, I would be surprised if we saw a CDMA version soon. And it will be a while before a non-Cingular branded iPhone is available on T-Mobile or AT&T, since Cingular evidently ponied up $150 million to be the exclusive US Vendor. Not sure for how long. I think it was 6 months that Cingular was the only place you could get a RAZR.

Emiliano 01-09-2007 05:10 PM

Looks very good. Any word on the Euro release? I'm guessing that with this Cingular exclusive, it gets released in the US first. I hope they'll release it no-brand over here, I've always hated branded phones.

Coder 01-09-2007 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emiliano (Post 1353345)
Looks very good. Any word on the Euro release? I'm guessing that with this Cingular exclusive, it gets released in the US first. I hope they'll release it no-brand over here, I've always hated branded phones.


Swedish newspapers are saying fall 2007.

cartman 01-09-2007 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emiliano (Post 1353345)
Looks very good. Any word on the Euro release? I'm guessing that with this Cingular exclusive, it gets released in the US first. I hope they'll release it no-brand over here, I've always hated branded phones.


It looks like O2 is going to be the exclusive provider in Europe to begin with. If I remember, then that means they will be Wind in Italy?

Emiliano 01-09-2007 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1353355)
It looks like O2 is going to be the exclusive provider in Europe to begin with. If I remember, then that means they will be Wind in Italy?


I guess. I just checked their site, and they're advertising the i-Mode technology, which is Wind-exclusive here. I'm not 100% sure, though.

Easy Mac 01-09-2007 05:39 PM

So I take it the $500 pricetag is including being subsidized by Cingular? Most smart phones are 100-200 cheaper with a contract than buying straight out, but i'm assuming the iphone isn't. I'm content that outside of the Itunes part, my current phone can do all the same things (though the screen is only 240x320 and not as sharp), but I'll be damned if I won't get an iPhone anyway.

Easy Mac 01-09-2007 05:48 PM

A cool comparison of its size

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/a...to-q-and-bb-p/

Emiliano 01-09-2007 06:01 PM

High quality images of the iPhone.

Wow.

cartman 01-09-2007 06:21 PM

I wonder if that really is Steve Jobs' phone number. Look at the 4th pic down after the text. LOL!

hxxp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/

dawgfan 01-09-2007 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 1353387)
I wonder if that really is Steve Jobs' phone number. Look at the 4th pic down after the text. LOL!

hxxp://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/

I'm going to guess that's Apple's phone number.

dawgfan 01-09-2007 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawgfan (Post 1353396)
I'm going to guess that's Apple's phone number.

Checked and confirmed.

Coffee Warlord 01-09-2007 07:23 PM

http://www.pvponline.com/images/2980.gif

Easy Mac 01-10-2007 06:15 PM

And just like that, I don't geel like getting the iPod phone.
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/iphon...-applications/

It seems you can't install any apps on it, so you can only do what Apple wants. I was hoping it was a real OSx install, so I could throw some fun stuff on there. Imagine if I could have skype on that thing. It looks slick as hell, but its too locked down.

Easy Mac 01-10-2007 06:19 PM

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/10/cisco...one-trademark/

And now Cisco is suing Apple over the iPhone trademark. Seems Apple didn't sign the paperwork for the name in time, and Cisco said FU

cartman 01-10-2007 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 1354266)
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/10/cisco...one-trademark/

And now Cisco is suing Apple over the iPhone trademark. Seems Apple didn't sign the paperwork for the name in time, and Cisco said FU


So I guess the transitional name is iPwned

RendeR 01-10-2007 07:14 PM

I don't understand why all these tencho-hippy toys are always supposed to be "breaking news"

its a gizmo, get a grip.


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