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Three Point Thursdays - Unlicensed Football Games Edition

In last week’s Three Point Thursday, we looked ahead to Madden 09. This week, we’ll take a look at the rest of this year’s crop of football games.

Point #1: None of the non-licensed football games are going to replace Madden.

All-Pro Football 2K8 impressed most people last year with its rock solid gameplay, and a select few gamers purchased it in place of Madden. Despite its disappointing releases the last few years, Madden still reigns as the undisputed king of (professional) video game football on this generation of consoles.

Even with the foundation of the critically acclaimed NFL 2K5 to build on, All-Pro Football 2K8 failed to make a dent in Madden’s sales. It’s hard to believe, but almost a decade has passed since NFL 2K stormed onto the scene with its triumphant debut on the Dreamcast in 1999. Despite the attempts of a few licensed football games to repeat that feat, no product has gained traction. A new non-licensed football game coming from out of nowhere to make an impact on Madden would be highly improbable at this point.

Point #2: The non-licensed football games need to distinguish themselves from Madden.

Once we understand that these games have little chance of usurping Madden, the most important factor behind the games’ success becomes their ability to fashion their own identities. All-Pro Football 2K8 subscribed to the basics of this strategy through its implementation of legends, but didn’t offer much else on or off the field that we hadn’t come to expect. While it brought some new ideas to the table, it fell short when it came to truly setting itself apart from the competition, including even its predecessor NFL 2K5.

Blitz: The League and All-Pro Football 2K8 showed that football games can enter the market and have a modest amount of success. Borrowing from the strengths of each game – Blitz: The League’s longevity and All-Pro Football 2K8’s gameplay – would allow a new football game to garner a sizable following. Tecmo Bowl already has an advantage in this regard, as it captured the hearts and minds of many gamers in their youths.

Point #3: Non-licensed sports games need to create their own niche.


Companies looking to enter the market should look towards Blitz: The League rather than All-Pro Football 2K8 as a model for business. Game mechanics aside, Blitz: The League introduced a unique story-based franchise mode that provided a fresh experience with serious replay value. Solid “sim-style” gameplay combined with addicting features or gameplay mechanics will play a crucial role in allowing a new football game to create its own identity. All-Pro Football 2K8 and Blitz: The League showed that having either solid gameplay or longevity, but not both, won’t cut it.

Backbreaker and Tecmo Bowl need to play to their strengths. Backbreaker boasts the revolutionary euphoria physics engine, and the tackling system appears to be the focal point of the game. It should appeal to gamers looking for something fresh, but it will need to provide a more rounded experience if it hopes to be more than a glorified tech demo. NaturalMotion needs to put as much effort into the fundamentals as they do the new technology. If they succeed in that regard, Backbreaker will be more closely examined not only by gamers, but also by companies considering implementing similar technology.

It remains to be seen what lies in store with a new Tecmo Bowl, but if it can evoke the elegant simplicity of the originals, it will gain much attention on the sports-starved Wii. Its success will also depend on Tecmo’s ability to modernize the game in a seamless fashion, as other Nintendo games have in the past.

The Point: There’s room for Backbreaker, Tecmo Bowl, and other prospective non-licensed football games.

This week’s OS Roundtable didn’t show much enthusiasm for the non-licensed football games, but this year’s releases could surprise people. The relative disappointment of All-Pro Football 2K8 has many gamers ignoring non-licensed football games, but both Backbreaker and Tecmo Bowl appear to be bringing something fresh to the genre.


Member Comments
# 1 BigBlue @ 04/11/08 08:52 AM
I'm still holding out some hope that 2K Sports will eventually release All Pro Football 2K9 sometime this year (regardless of what has already been reported). While the lack of franchise hurt 2K8's replay value, I believe that the reason it did not do as well in sales was because it was only released on Next Gen systems with little to no marketing during major sports events like the NFL draft.

I still play 2K8 and feel that it is the most underrated game on the next gen consoles.

BigBlue
 
# 2 Sausage @ 04/11/08 09:33 AM
I cannot wait to try other football offerings that are not over the top, but lean more to realism. I also hope 2K9 gets a chance to be released and I am looking forward to backbreaker. What will hurt both of these games will be the fact that nobody wants to learn new control schemes, camera angles, and play with players that are not players now on a pro or college team. Many say they want change, but they won't be able to handle a learning curve. Also so many people say no franchise hurt APF 2K8, but what hurt it more was the more realistic gameplay. People want the ease and comfort of Madden no matter how poop it is.
 
# 3 BlyGilmore @ 04/11/08 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue
I'm still holding out some hope that 2K Sports will eventually release All Pro Football 2K9 sometime this year (regardless of what has already been reported). While the lack of franchise hurt 2K8's replay value, I believe that the reason it did not do as well in sales was because it was only released on Next Gen systems with little to no marketing during major sports events like the NFL draft.

I still play 2K8 and feel that it is the most underrated game on the next gen consoles.

BigBlue
sorry man but I think you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. development on the game has already stopped and its too late in the game for them to kick back up and release a good game before Madden at this point.
 
# 4 BlyGilmore @ 04/11/08 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sausage
I cannot wait to try other football offerings that are not over the top, but lean more to realism. I also hope 2K9 gets a chance to be released and I am looking forward to backbreaker. What will hurt both of these games will be the fact that nobody wants to learn new control schemes, camera angles, and play with players that are not players now on a pro or college team. Many say they want change, but they won't be able to handle a learning curve. Also so many people say no franchise hurt APF 2K8, but what hurt it more was the more realistic gameplay. People want the ease and comfort of Madden no matter how poop it is.
I disagree. If the game is innovative and fun, people will play it. The question is will it be deep enough to provide everything people expect in a football game?

That was the problem with APF. It wasn't that there were fictional players (along with the legends), or fake teams that killed that game. It was the complete lack of a franchise mode with the ability to draft new players, make trades, have free agents, etc.
 
# 5 BigBlue @ 04/11/08 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BlyGilmore
sorry man but I think you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. development on the game has already stopped and its too late in the game for them to kick back up and release a good game before Madden at this point.
Bly:

Is it possible for Take Two to try a different approach to releasing the game this time around and wait until AFTER Madden was released? Perhaps even during the football season? If I'm reading Peter Moore's blogs correctly, it seems like EA is taking a more casual approach to the game so that it is easy for users to play. This approach would disappoint the sim-gamers who try to achieve a more realistic experience.

TT would then market 2K9 towards the hardcore sim-gamers who are ready to dump Madden for the more realistic gameplay of All-Pro2K9. At least I hope so. If not this year, then maybe next year.

BigBlue
 
# 6 gamerk2 @ 04/12/08 10:54 PM
Link looks dead right now; i'm personally hoping that Backbreaker delivers the goods.
 
# 7 BlyGilmore @ 04/14/08 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue
Bly:

Is it possible for Take Two to try a different approach to releasing the game this time around and wait until AFTER Madden was released? Perhaps even during the football season? If I'm reading Peter Moore's blogs correctly, it seems like EA is taking a more casual approach to the game so that it is easy for users to play. This approach would disappoint the sim-gamers who try to achieve a more realistic experience.

TT would then market 2K9 towards the hardcore sim-gamers who are ready to dump Madden for the more realistic gameplay of All-Pro2K9. At least I hope so. If not this year, then maybe next year.

BigBlue
Honestly that would be a very ballzy move, and could only prove successful if Madden is another huge disappointment to hundreds of thousands of fans.

The problem with that scenario is people are used to buying certain sports games at certain times. I'm sure we've all felt those tugs in June just waiting for our first football fix, sitting around in February looking forward to when the baseball games will come out or realizing the arrival of fall means the NBA, NHL and FIFA being right around the corner.

Not having your game available in that general time frame, to me, puts you at a disadvantage.

Plus if you wait a month or two to release, you're competing against the NBA, College Hoops, NHL games plus FIFA. Huge football fans might be willing to try another game, but a lot of folks are ready to move onto another sport.

(You kind of see this with PES this year. it was released months after FIFA and as a result didn't get a lot of buzz. Part of the reason could have been what's been seen as a subpar offering, but leading up to it there wasn't near the same kind of anticipation FIFA had in the fall - in part because people who needed a soccer fix got it with FIFA).
 

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